tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31362580.post81932678412685445..comments2023-07-04T10:34:08.502+01:00Comments on The Tin Drummer: LawmakingBill Haydonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08357811679771159469noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31362580.post-84540284771060655062007-02-27T22:52:00.000+00:002007-02-27T22:52:00.000+00:00WHen you try to point out to these UFO guys that t...WHen you try to point out to these UFO guys that the laws of physics dictate that interstellar travel must involve the use of some resource (Laws of thermodynamics) and that, regardless of the aliens' economic model, they will have to balance out how they use resources, this fifty year recurring mission to spy on rednecks can't be that scientifically productive.<BR/>I remember in pub pointing out to one of these believe anything guys that something he alleged aliens had done contradicted laws of physics.<BR/>His reply?<BR/>'Maybe they've got different laws of physics.'<BR/>Despair.Crushedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02479751225625007588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31362580.post-50750794735269205462007-02-27T19:46:00.000+00:002007-02-27T19:46:00.000+00:00I often point out to UFO enthusiasts that Aliens, ...I often point out to UFO enthusiasts that Aliens, wherever they come frome must observe the same laws of physics. They also must have finite resources and (regardless of their economic model) have some method of allocating resources.<BR/>Interstellar travel must use significant resources, which their society could put to other uses.<BR/>In fact, if interstellar travel is easy for them , then it still means it uses resources that could be used up in amazing things that would benefit their homeworld.<BR/>So I envision a Board meeting of leading Greys which goes somewhat like this.<BR/>K-PAX: 'OK, now to the Sol project. We've been sending these research missions to earth for a while, mainly to the nothern part of one continent and so far, we've only learned from the subjects of our experiments that inbreeding is high in that part of earth.<BR/>Why are using our resources on this project?'<BR/>KLOL: Er- well we have some very good nasal swabs.<BR/><BR/>Not convincing is it?<BR/>Or am I the perpetual cynic?Crushedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02479751225625007588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31362580.post-46124850683321581142007-02-27T18:36:00.000+00:002007-02-27T18:36:00.000+00:00It's funny how being in certain states of mind or ...It's funny how being in certain states of mind or having certain views affects your reasoning. It was only after I'd lost enthusiasm for UFOs that the point about astronomers came to mind. I wonder what Bob Lazar does now?<BR/><BR/>The autopsy video was rubbish but not as rubbish as Santilli's subsequent shabby, dishonest and cynical behaviour.<BR/><BR/>I have experienced sleep paralysis, once, and terrifying it was too. I don't think about alien abduction now, never did much anyway and I would think it a mixture of things, including sleep paralysis.Bill Haydonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08357811679771159469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31362580.post-87838736995300382152007-02-27T18:10:00.000+00:002007-02-27T18:10:00.000+00:00Less than two percent of UFOs are reported by astr...Less than two percent of UFOs are reported by astronomers- as in the dudes who spend most time staring at the sky.<BR/>Have you experienced sleep paralysis? It happens when you to sleep in a mentally excited frame of mind. I used to get it in my heavy clubbing days.<BR/>Seriuos Psychiatrists think that's what most Alien abduction actually here and having experienced it, I would agree.<BR/>The autopsy video was poor.<BR/>You're about Lazar. I think he half convinced himself though.Crushedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02479751225625007588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31362580.post-18230156161810003242007-02-27T08:57:00.000+00:002007-02-27T08:57:00.000+00:00Yes I remember the Bob Lazar stuff. I _did_ think...Yes I remember the Bob Lazar stuff. I _did_ think that because he was a physicist he had some kind of authority (wasn't he served with a court summons for building a rocket sled in his garage or something, as well as running a brothel in his house) and I'm sure I saw the thing in one of Tim Good's books about him being in the Area 51 phone book. <BR/><BR/>I've posted on this before too - the failure of the UFO flap of the 90s to amount to anything at all seriously dented my interest in conspiracy theories; I kind of felt personally let down as photo after photo and video after video turned out to be fake.Bill Haydonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08357811679771159469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31362580.post-63876552257946716482007-02-26T23:29:00.000+00:002007-02-26T23:29:00.000+00:00Problem rectified, (just laziness on my part)blog ...Problem rectified, (just laziness on my part)blog should be accesible now. Not much on there, mind, it's a very young blogspot.<BR/><BR/>I did reply to your earlier comment in some detail but I think I deleted it by mistake, rather than posting it.<BR/>I merely remarked that most of these conspiracy theories are the same themes, different actors. Compare 'The Protocols of the Elders of Zion' to your standard David Icke drivel. All the same lietmotifs.<BR/>I also wondered if you'd read Bob Lazar's claims, which impressed me because of the implications of his fantasy physics (which kind of pans out in a pseudoscience kind of way)<BR/><BR/>Of course, I think our great leaders are selling us another conspiracy theory...Crushedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02479751225625007588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31362580.post-83611890517352596222007-02-26T21:58:00.000+00:002007-02-26T21:58:00.000+00:00Thank you for another thoughtful and detailed comm...Thank you for another thoughtful and detailed comment, cbi: may I ask whether you have a blog, as it seems that you could well benefit from one? Your profile has no info on it all.<BR/><BR/>On the conspiracy point, I am sorry to say that despite my scepticism I am drawn to conspiracy narratives as promoting an idea of a vast intelligence beyond ourselves and the possibility, remote as it currently seems, of the competence of government. If you read into my archives you'll see I had my fingers burned as a teenager with UFO conspiracies! So now I loathe and detest Nick Pope (you're not him are you, oh well if you are...) & Ray Santilli (nobhead). <BR/><BR/>And Capricon One was such a cool film.Bill Haydonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08357811679771159469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31362580.post-68257195823734876192007-02-26T21:45:00.000+00:002007-02-26T21:45:00.000+00:00You speak truth, my drumming friend.I am very worr...You speak truth, my drumming friend.<BR/>I am very worried that this law will have the oppsite consequences to its purported intent.<BR/>There is a huge element of people out there who believe any daft conspiracy theory from fake Apollo landings to the Queen being a reptile.<BR/>We don't need to give them encouragement.<BR/>By making this law, it gives fuel to the fires of these far right loons and their claims that the evidence is being manipulated.<BR/>After all, we seem to be saying that their arguments can not be refuted simply in open discussion, with all the facts out in the open.<BR/>Why shoot ourselves in the foot this way?<BR/>It ironic that we should deny freedom of speech to those who denigrate those who died for that freedom.<BR/>These revisionist arguments are so puerile, they are no threat to anyone, nor should we be panicked into seeing them as such.Crushedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02479751225625007588noreply@blogger.com